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at that time president meeting with germany chancellor took another shot at russian leader putin. >> washington can't be taken into account is mr. putin suggestion both through words and action that he has the right to violate the solve republic ty of another country. that's not acceptable. ix hear open the streets anger aimed at the united states we asked this pro russian leader who he blames for the violence. his answer doesn't need any translation. >> america. >> it's not clear what kind of violence will provoke 0response from russian a.spokesman says putin is being kept informed of the unfolding events there and regards the swi quote grave concern. so stay tune we'll see what happens next. >> at least 350 people are dead and thousands more missing tonight. following a major land slide in afghanistan. days of heavy rain trigger the slide that buried 300 homes in remote area of northeast afghanistan. the rest of the village evacuated because of concerns there will be more moving mud. rescue crew are lacking for people still trapped in the rubble but officials say they don't have en
at that time president meeting with germany chancellor took another shot at russian leader putin. >> washington can't be taken into account is mr. putin suggestion both through words and action that he has the right to violate the solve republic ty of another country. that's not acceptable. ix hear open the streets anger aimed at the united states we asked this pro russian leader who he blames for the violence. his answer doesn't need any translation. >> america. >> it's not...
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lawmakers in germany one of the us to agree to a narrow spot i'd treat you with them. pres obama said that no such treaty exists with any nation. and both he and chancellor merkel admit it. the resulting it's a fiasco. require more work in the future we do not have a blanket no spy agreement with any country. with any of our closest partners. what we are doing with the germans. as we're doing with the french as we do with british or canadian trade body has to work through what exactly. of the rules are governing the relationship between each country. why did i turn this weekend. the situation is. we have to be skeptical. so this is what is going to be the son of god. we met because of the names. and since i'm still just me and it is also why the bbc cbs and laughed the more bands do business with you too heavy for chancellor merkel returns back to german kill me with the u s chamber of commerce they make a pitch for a new transatlantic trade agreement that's really the one issue on the agenda but she president obama and their business allies at home to see eye to eye o
lawmakers in germany one of the us to agree to a narrow spot i'd treat you with them. pres obama said that no such treaty exists with any nation. and both he and chancellor merkel admit it. the resulting it's a fiasco. require more work in the future we do not have a blanket no spy agreement with any country. with any of our closest partners. what we are doing with the germans. as we're doing with the french as we do with british or canadian trade body has to work through what exactly. of the...
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germany's leaders are still angry over revelation he of nsa credit eavesdropping on merkel's phone call. >> translator: there are differences of opinion on what sort of balance the strike between the intensity of surveillance, trying to protect the citizens against threats and on the other hand, protecting the individual privacy and individual freedom. >> reporter: president obama said he was pained to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures had strained both his personal relationship with merkel and strong u.s. alliance with germany and he tried to assure germans that regular citizens are not subject to surveillance. >> ordering our intelligence communities to take privacy of non-u.s. citizens into account in everything you do. thank you very much everybody. >> but the two parted ways, and the you know, doesn't have such an arrangement with any of its closest partners. libby casey, al jazeera washington. >> wiped out an entire village north of kabul in the hills of baarakshon. more than 2,000 people lived in the village. rescuers spent the day bringing food and comfort to the s
germany's leaders are still angry over revelation he of nsa credit eavesdropping on merkel's phone call. >> translator: there are differences of opinion on what sort of balance the strike between the intensity of surveillance, trying to protect the citizens against threats and on the other hand, protecting the individual privacy and individual freedom. >> reporter: president obama said he was pained to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures had strained both his personal...
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>> so the president has turned to chancellor merkel because of the relationship that germany has with russia and because the germans are considered so central to bringing the europeans along. and you could see today in the rose garden the struggle that the europeans. you could see it on display. because she said a number of times we will go to the next tier. and she described the trigger for that being the may 25 elections that are scheduled in ukraine. if they're disrupted, if there's a provocation that prevents them from going forward. but she kept saying, but this is not what we want to do. and she also very forcefully indicated that most of the european nations understand at they would be hurt if the energy sector is in the next tranch of serious economic sanctions. because many of the european countries get a majority if not almost all of their oil and gas -- >> it would hit average citizens. >> it would affect the global economy. and president obama has not been secretive about that. he has also indicated that. his body language with chancellor merkel was very conciliatory to th
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and germany. this is 40 minutes. honor toalways a great welcome my friend, chancellor merkel, to the white house. angela is one of my closest partner and with her indulgence, i want to start by making two brief comments. first, as president, my top priority is doing everything we can to create more jobs and opportunities for hard-working families for our economic strength as a source of strength in the world. this morning, we learned that our businesses created 273,000 new jobs last month. all told, our businesses have now created 9.2 million new jobs over 50 consecutive months of job growth. the grit and determination of the american people are moving us forward, but we have to keep a relentless focus on job creation and creating more opportunities for working families. there is plenty more that congress should be doing, from raising the minimum wage to creating good construction jobs rebuilding america. i want to work with them wherever i can, but i keep acting on my own wherever i must do to make sure that every a
and germany. this is 40 minutes. honor toalways a great welcome my friend, chancellor merkel, to the white house. angela is one of my closest partner and with her indulgence, i want to start by making two brief comments. first, as president, my top priority is doing everything we can to create more jobs and opportunities for hard-working families for our economic strength as a source of strength in the world. this morning, we learned that our businesses created 273,000 new jobs last month. all...
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we were promised that after germany's unification than it would not spread eastward. a started expanding and incorporating former warsaw treaty countries. we heard in response this does not concern you. nations and countries have the war to choose the way of ensuring the security. that's true, but it's also true when the infrastructure of the military bloc approaches our borders we have grounds for apprehension question. no one could deny as this right. he went on to say have been no and western leaders have long many times tsongas, made decisions behind the back of price wars and accomplished fact some today we want to examine whether in natal and the newly expanded nato alliance is now reaping the whirlwind of that decision and the ukraine. the of a very distinguished panel of people here today who are essentially present at the creation in one way or another. you will have biographies, but briefly the former foreign minister and actually first prime minister and then foreign minister of poland, going to make the your first name. on my immediate left, prime minister
we were promised that after germany's unification than it would not spread eastward. a started expanding and incorporating former warsaw treaty countries. we heard in response this does not concern you. nations and countries have the war to choose the way of ensuring the security. that's true, but it's also true when the infrastructure of the military bloc approaches our borders we have grounds for apprehension question. no one could deny as this right. he went on to say have been no and...
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and if you bring that siemens run into germany a much bigger company and been awesome in france. it's been a total logical sense to move most of the management to to germany not even a trend towards gop would actually keep alive a decision made in france pm there have missed it i'm thinking that too much on point of view the gt offers probably the better one. we just didn't get this whole issue of the view of the european champions opposes him in the crown jewel to the americans were getting a lot of reactions when you're populism here we come for sen shaven off with a former mayor then phone has a lot of. i'll still use the activity is located compares oust him take over to nineteen forty defeat against germany. and on but come on that night and i will be seen if you've read the french press. the german press and the us press is quite predictable on the part of journalists answer as to which one hour to go to a day and yes with the anglo saxon process and has been very scathing of the way the french government has been rampant since i'm like the recent to get well number one tha
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. >> germany is the key. >> germany is one key. we have chancellor merkel meeting with barack obama. that is the number one topic on their agenda, along with nsa and tapping her phone. year --did you say last [laughter] >> she may know what he is taking. >> let's talk about the effect on american economies. -- companies. is there any consideration to say, get out of russia? >> they are the ones doing outrage -- doing the outreach. i asked if companies are lobbying for less sanctions. the administration responded, we are going to them and asking them to rate -- cut their russian exposure. cut their russian exposure nine percent. the white house has been lobbying and getting success with major american companies and ceos were supposed to go to go to an economic conference sponsored by putin. some are pulling out entirely or reducing their delegations. >> if he keeps escalating, is there any chance that america would take the literary action or at least aid the ukrainians with legal arms? >> two separate actions. on taking military ac
. >> germany is the key. >> germany is one key. we have chancellor merkel meeting with barack obama. that is the number one topic on their agenda, along with nsa and tapping her phone. year --did you say last [laughter] >> she may know what he is taking. >> let's talk about the effect on american economies. -- companies. is there any consideration to say, get out of russia? >> they are the ones doing outrage -- doing the outreach. i asked if companies are lobbying...
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ambassador to germany. he's now managing director at the consulting firm mclarty associates. and david kramer is president of freedom house. david kramer, given today's military actions, how serious is the situation right now and how likely is it to escalate? >> every day gets more serious and every day runs the risk of escalating into a full-blown war. the ukrainian authorities have a right and responsibility to restore control of territory, part of the ukrainian territory part of crimea sadly forgotten in this narrative. stirred up by putin and the government, trying to destabilize ukraine, trying to keep it from holding elections three weeks from sunday and doing everything they can to try to make ukraine as unattractive and unappealing to the west and the west needs to do a better job, in my view, of imposing tough, hard-hitting sanctions. >> first, richard burt on this situation. is it that clear-cut to you? >> well, i think david is absolutely right that it is becoming increasingly precarious. it looks as one of your early set-up pieces said that we may be on the edge o
ambassador to germany. he's now managing director at the consulting firm mclarty associates. and david kramer is president of freedom house. david kramer, given today's military actions, how serious is the situation right now and how likely is it to escalate? >> every day gets more serious and every day runs the risk of escalating into a full-blown war. the ukrainian authorities have a right and responsibility to restore control of territory, part of the ukrainian territory part of crimea...
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economically the gas that is its gas supplies for germany for eastern europe what it be that easy for russia to simply turn off the gas to europe. when we would not be easy though it would be rather difficult russia is hard currency reserves. in less than five hundred million but has that collectively the corporate sector the banking sector and the state sector when in excess of seven hundred billion so long that bases its intended. well in excess of two hundred million so it cannot afford it beyond russia can pretend that you can afford it. and god intended doing that. waiting to see how frightened the worst react. ok what about the possibility that russia will be selling its gas to china there's a lot of discussions of right now going on between beijing and moscow is a possibility that's a possibility but quantitative limits of negligible. it's the quantities i get too small to expand the quantities we would have to build a lot more pipelines and the soviet states not really in a bargaining chip at this point of time. ok so mostly russian gas will keep on flowing for the time being
economically the gas that is its gas supplies for germany for eastern europe what it be that easy for russia to simply turn off the gas to europe. when we would not be easy though it would be rather difficult russia is hard currency reserves. in less than five hundred million but has that collectively the corporate sector the banking sector and the state sector when in excess of seven hundred billion so long that bases its intended. well in excess of two hundred million so it cannot afford it...
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germany relies on russian energy, but merkel agreed to this to include it as long as her country's inevitable economic pain is shared with other countries. now, today's little meeting with president and merkel didn't go so well, apparently. the president still walking on egg shells over the whole nsa revelation that the u.s. spied on chancellor merkel. asked whether somehow she has trust that has been rebuilt with the president, she dodged simply saying, we have a few difficulties yet to overcome. lester? >> chuck todd tonight at the white house. thanks. >>> house speaker john boehner began appointing a committee today to investigate the september 11, 2012, attack on the u.s. diplomatic post in benghazi, libya, that killed four americans including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. and separately the republican chairman of the house oversight committee, darrell issa, subpoenaed secretary of state john kerry to testify about the administration's response to the attack. skipping the usual step of issuing an official invitation to appear. a release of internal white house e-mails with new details ab
germany relies on russian energy, but merkel agreed to this to include it as long as her country's inevitable economic pain is shared with other countries. now, today's little meeting with president and merkel didn't go so well, apparently. the president still walking on egg shells over the whole nsa revelation that the u.s. spied on chancellor merkel. asked whether somehow she has trust that has been rebuilt with the president, she dodged simply saying, we have a few difficulties yet to...
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that broke out in kiev internationals riots with a porch light march reminiscent of nineteen thirties germany through the city demanding that the ports regime not take definitive action too assert its control over the keystone of the country. armed and with this pressure that's on them to do something. it seems likely that they will further attempt incursions and just what you say that mom that we've been hearing to the old saying from outback a bomb. i think we can just hear the sand by committee and when he actually said he believed to be. i kept up with the wild child restraints are consumed the biggest concerns that we've seen as the russian propaganda that has been blasted out non stop suggesting somehow that the ukrainian government is responsible for the problems in eastern ukraine. the crane government has shown remarkable restraint throughout this process. her strength yet. well of course this is the way it actually american propaganda littered with incredible hypocrisy and double standards because president obama and the rest of us foreign policy establishment when making such state
that broke out in kiev internationals riots with a porch light march reminiscent of nineteen thirties germany through the city demanding that the ports regime not take definitive action too assert its control over the keystone of the country. armed and with this pressure that's on them to do something. it seems likely that they will further attempt incursions and just what you say that mom that we've been hearing to the old saying from outback a bomb. i think we can just hear the sand by...
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germany is one of our closest allies and one of our closest friends. that is true across the spectrum of issues, security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic and angela merkel is one of my closest friends on the world stage and somebody whose partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains on the relationship. more broadly, i have also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal structure and our policy structure to catch up with rapidly advancing technologies. as a consequence, through a series of steps, what we have tried to do is reform what we do and have taken these issues very seriously. domestically, we have tried to provide additional assurances to the american people that their privacy is protected. what i have also done is taken the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence community to take the privacy interests of non-u.s. persons into account in everything they do. it is something that has not been done before and most other countri
germany is one of our closest allies and one of our closest friends. that is true across the spectrum of issues, security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic and angela merkel is one of my closest friends on the world stage and somebody whose partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains on the relationship. more broadly, i have also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal structure and...
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s activities in germany lawmakers in germany want the us to agree to a new spy treaty with them but president obama said that. no such treaty exists with any nation and both he and chancellor merkel admitted that resulting the n.s.a. fiasco or require more work in the future we do not have a blanket no spy agreement with any country. with any of our closest partners what we are doing with the germans as we're doing with the french as we do with the british or the canadians or anybody is to work through. what exactly. the rules are governing the relationship between each country to get hyped up to mrs clinton how do you know that the situation is that or that we have a few difficulties yet two of a kind but so this is why there's going to be there's a dialogue i had you know you know to come business. to me as you put it so why have it you need to be and will have to be more than just business as usual now before chancellor merkel returns back to germany she'll meet with the u.s. chamber of commerce and make a pitch for a new transatlantic trade agreement that's really the one issue on the age
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alliance with germany. tried reassure merkel that the u.s. citizensful. >> have taken the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence communities to take privacy interests of non-u.s. persons into account in that everything they do. thank you very much everybody. >> but the two parted ways friday without hammering out a l potential u.s. spy or intelligence agreement. libby casey al jazeera washington. >> 20 years ago today, flaight beganatobegan its potato world i being push for new members. >> a sense that the end of the cold war ushered in the end of history. an end to insecurity. at least in europe. and end from aggression by nation states. but russia's actions in ukraine shatter that myth and usher in bracing new realities. >> secretary hagel said the alliance was as real than ever. nato expansion invited russian aggression, joins us tonight from providence, rhode island, terrence, welcome. >> thank you john. >> is ukraine on the brink of war? >> i think ukraine is already in a war but it's a proxy war with russians. they are engaging
alliance with germany. tried reassure merkel that the u.s. citizensful. >> have taken the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence communities to take privacy interests of non-u.s. persons into account in that everything they do. thank you very much everybody. >> but the two parted ways friday without hammering out a l potential u.s. spy or intelligence agreement. libby casey al jazeera washington. >> 20 years ago today, flaight beganatobegan its potato world i being...
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also what america could learn from germany about jobs and training skilled workers. plus prayers and property, i'll show you how the real estate market has been a blessing for churches looking to sell. i'm ali velshi, and this is "real money." >> this is "real money," you are the most important part of the show so tell me what is on your mind tweet me or go to facebook. i do read this stuff. the economy added 288,000 new jobs in april most of them came from the private sector. economists hope for 150 or 200,000 new jobs to get added every month just to keep up with new entrants to the job market. so the fact that we overshot that in april is really good news, and april has been a big acceleration from the prior months. another positive the number of long-term unemployed came down in april by 287,000. now i always say ignore the unemployment rate unless it's convenient for me to help tell a story. focus instead on that, the number of jobs added every month. in april the rate dropped .4 of a percentage point the lowest in 5.5 years. over the last 12 months the unemploy
also what america could learn from germany about jobs and training skilled workers. plus prayers and property, i'll show you how the real estate market has been a blessing for churches looking to sell. i'm ali velshi, and this is "real money." >> this is "real money," you are the most important part of the show so tell me what is on your mind tweet me or go to facebook. i do read this stuff. the economy added 288,000 new jobs in april most of them came from the private...
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. >> the violent instability at the top of the agenda for white house meetings germany has much as stake here. it gets one third of the oil and gas from russia. the president says harsher sanctions could be the next step. >> the goal is not to punish russia, but to give them an incentive to choose the better course. >> eastern ukraine has been teetering on the brink for weeks cities and towns falling like dominoes today more than 30 people died in a fire. the blaze sparked by violence. police there said four people were killed in clashes. the president and chancellor said the president is looking for a diplomatic solution to this crisis but russia needs to step up. >> rescue efforts underway in afghanistan today officials say 350 dead and 2000. the rest of the village has been evacuated out of here of landslides. >> house speaker john boehner says he plans to establish a select committee to investigate an embassy attack in libya. issa wants to know why e mails were oem mitted from previous administration submissions. four people died in that attack. >> the cdc says a deadly virus turned
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. >> it's kind of amazing, because obviously germany is the biggest trading partner for russia, and german companies have been lobbying hard. maybe they want the sanctions early so they can get them over with early. here. the white house says the sanctions have already had a significant effect on russia's economy. true or not, michelle? >> you really have to look at it from two senses. for weeks the administration has been citing things like the weakening ruble, weakening russian stock markets. well, we talk to people who really know international markets and that was going on already. and also, it's really hard to separate out what problems would have been the results of russia's own actions in ukraine and what would be because of sanctions. but they have hurt, absolutely, the people and the entities targeted. for example, banks that are now essentially shut out of doing business in the dollar and the euro. >> all right. thank you very much, michelle kosinski reporting live from the white house tonight. >>> in the meantime tonight, malaysian officials say they may send a ship to investiga
. >> it's kind of amazing, because obviously germany is the biggest trading partner for russia, and german companies have been lobbying hard. maybe they want the sanctions early so they can get them over with early. here. the white house says the sanctions have already had a significant effect on russia's economy. true or not, michelle? >> you really have to look at it from two senses. for weeks the administration has been citing things like the weakening ruble, weakening russian...
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"the washington post" quotes him saying he's embarrassed that germany's failure of leadership. he's already made clear that's how he feels about the obama administration refusal to provide defensive weapons. the u.n. security council held its 13th emergency session on the crisis. this one called by russia, which blames the violence on kiev and its western enablers. >>> up next, the new jobs numbers and what they tell us. fox 45 in baltimore with clean up following the collapse of a sidewalk and retaining wall wednesday after it came down after heavy rains over the past 24 hours. take a look at that. >>> fox 31 in louisville with preparations for saturday's 140th kentucky derby. about the timers on the runs for the roses will be getting a little less back if they win this year. this is a live look at new york from fox 5, the big story there ton, a subway derailment in queens that sent four people to the hospital with very serious injuries. six subway cars of a manhattan brooklyn bound express train went off the tracks this morning but remained upright. that's outside the beltway
"the washington post" quotes him saying he's embarrassed that germany's failure of leadership. he's already made clear that's how he feels about the obama administration refusal to provide defensive weapons. the u.n. security council held its 13th emergency session on the crisis. this one called by russia, which blames the violence on kiev and its western enablers. >>> up next, the new jobs numbers and what they tell us. fox 45 in baltimore with clean up following the...
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alliance with germany. he tried to assure germans that regular citizens are not subject to surveillance. >> what i've tried odo is take the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence communities to take the privacy of of normal u.s. dissention into everything they do. >> the president saying the u.s. doesn't have such an arrangement with any of its closest partners. >> david, the story is that you were talking about an agreement along these lines and then pulled back on it. the president said no we never had that as a plan. while we are interested in some intelligence sharing, privacy-sharing, we'll see how that plays out, because many of the reporters from germany are very interested on the u.s. position on spying and how chancellor merkel is was responding to the president's words. >> lobby, be merkel having the most contact with the russian president did she havefully sense? >> can be found but she was putting sanctions on the table and she was talking about next steps. she like president obama hold
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gorbachev was discussing unification of germany. i am not going to talk about the myth that we promised nato would never move east. it is a lie. gorbachev raised the question, shouldn't russia join nato? james baker pooh-poohed him. saidter regretted that and he should not have done that. he should have engaged gorbachev on that question. acts of theirst yield and government -- yeltsin government -- they had to withdraw because it was so embarrassing. i am wondering how much damage has been done by the lack of engagement with russia. and its interests with nato. >> yes, sir. >> first of all, i cannot agree on you -- more on your statement. thank you so much. [laughter] the --y, i agree with yes. that is where i technically agree. point of president putin. was unclear. i would put it anyway, if you read my memoirs and somebody publishes them -- [laughter] i want russia to be, and -- westerno become a democracy. as a diplomat, i met with a lot of confusing signals from nato all the time. even the prime minister said, that is very inte
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germany gets $50.2 billion in exports to russia. german lobby groups are counting numbers of 3000 jobs are dependent on russian trade. interest as well. there is major interest in pushing hard on angela merkel. >> doesn't germany import a lot of natural gas from russia? other issues is on the energy side of things. you heard president obama and chancellor merkel address that today. what we're looking at next, according to officials, and the president, if sanctions are to be expanded they're going to target entire sectors. financial services, defense, and that should mean energy. when it comes to europe, that is a major problem. what chancellor merkel said today, six countries are 100% reliant on russian gas. germans are taking a third of their gas from russia. before -- for sex how they do the is a huge question right now because of the damage that would be in norma's in the european area. waxing want to thank you for this developing story. when russian forces invaded the ukraine crimea peninsula in late february, it prompted one jo
germany gets $50.2 billion in exports to russia. german lobby groups are counting numbers of 3000 jobs are dependent on russian trade. interest as well. there is major interest in pushing hard on angela merkel. >> doesn't germany import a lot of natural gas from russia? other issues is on the energy side of things. you heard president obama and chancellor merkel address that today. what we're looking at next, according to officials, and the president, if sanctions are to be expanded...
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we said many times germany pays the real price check lyeconomic sector sanctions. the way it's framed now, previously russia had a negative obligation to avoid sector-wide sanctions. the west said do not invade ukraine, if you do, we'll have them. they have a positive obligation. they have to stop disrupting the situation on the ground which is arguably a tougher thing to get them to do. >> ambassador baer, you're there and you represent the united states at the organization for security and cooperation in europe. do you really believe, given the current circumstances, the violence that's going on, the deaths, the bloodshed, the warfare, if you will, at least in a preliminary stage, there can be free and fair elections in ukraine on may 25th? >> i do, wolf. you know, the violence or the confrontations have been fairly local iced. they're obviously in a number of places but they're absolutely necessary. part of the message all along has been that there are certainly grievance all over the country. everybody in ukraine has been robbed blind by the yanokovych governme
we said many times germany pays the real price check lyeconomic sector sanctions. the way it's framed now, previously russia had a negative obligation to avoid sector-wide sanctions. the west said do not invade ukraine, if you do, we'll have them. they have a positive obligation. they have to stop disrupting the situation on the ground which is arguably a tougher thing to get them to do. >> ambassador baer, you're there and you represent the united states at the organization for security...
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he said we were promised after germany's unification, nato would not spread eastward. when we said why are you doing this, we hurt in response this does not concern you. nations and countries have the right to choose a way of ensuring their own security. issaid, that is true, but it also true when the infrastructure of a military borders,oaches our we have questions and we must take certain steps. no one can deny us this right. he went on to say how nato and western leaders had lied to russians many times, made decisions by their backs, and placed before us the compost fact, and that is what happened with the nato expansion. examine we want to whether nato and the newly expanded nato alliance, that is, over the last 20 years, is reaping the whirlwind of that decision in ukraine, and we have distinguished panel of people today who were essentially present at the creation. you have biographies in the program, but i will briefly -- the former prime minister and perhaps the first prime minister and then foreign minister of -- i'm going to mangle your first name -- wlodzimi
he said we were promised after germany's unification, nato would not spread eastward. when we said why are you doing this, we hurt in response this does not concern you. nations and countries have the right to choose a way of ensuring their own security. issaid, that is true, but it also true when the infrastructure of a military borders,oaches our we have questions and we must take certain steps. no one can deny us this right. he went on to say how nato and western leaders had lied to russians...
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as pro russia protesters shoot helicopters out of the sky, germany's chancellor angela merkel talks about squeezing more sanctions on russia. >> jeb, if you need some advice, give me a call. >> increasingly it seems that republican donors may be inclined to and the pop culture lead, do you think this gives you a respectability that you didn't have before? >> absolutely not. >> joel mchale has something to make fun of, us, the host of "the soup" and the star of "the community" drops by "the lead" ahead of the white house correspondents' dinner. good afternoon, everyone. i'm jake tapper. we'll begin with the world lead. death in ukraine. 31 people died at a trade union building while the cause is not perfectly clear, odessa is currently being torn apart by rioting and clashes between ukrainian royalists and pro-russia activists with thousands positioned near the eastern border. but right here in the u.s., president obama and german chancellor angela merkel meeting at the white house today emerging with some tough talk about their willingness to squeeze sectors of the russian economy. also t
as pro russia protesters shoot helicopters out of the sky, germany's chancellor angela merkel talks about squeezing more sanctions on russia. >> jeb, if you need some advice, give me a call. >> increasingly it seems that republican donors may be inclined to and the pop culture lead, do you think this gives you a respectability that you didn't have before? >> absolutely not. >> joel mchale has something to make fun of, us, the host of "the soup" and the star of...
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they really wanted to show a sense of unity with germany. really the united states needs to be allied with europe over moving forward with a broader sanctions regime. you heard the president raised the specter of doing sectoral regime going against finance and against the defense industry, the arms industry there. the issue for europe is, of course, the concern about -- about the impact on energy supplies, russian energy supplies, whether or not any broader sanctions could hurt their ability to their use and import of all these russian oil and natural gas supplies. that's going to be the question going forward for them. while they showed unity on the issue of ukraine, of course, germany and the united states are clearly not on the same page yet when it comes over to the national security agency, the domestic surveillance program and what came to light over the edward snowden revelations over spying on angela merkel themselves. the president used the line we're not -- we're not aligned yet on this issue about whether there would be no spy agr
they really wanted to show a sense of unity with germany. really the united states needs to be allied with europe over moving forward with a broader sanctions regime. you heard the president raised the specter of doing sectoral regime going against finance and against the defense industry, the arms industry there. the issue for europe is, of course, the concern about -- about the impact on energy supplies, russian energy supplies, whether or not any broader sanctions could hurt their ability to...
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you have it in spain, in ireland, in germany, in italy. that's the first point. the response here is to violence, primarily. secondly, what's declared terrorism or a terrorist organization is the organization itself. our present president has said that, according to our constitution, any egyptian who is not found guilty of a crime and is ready to work according to constitution peacefully still has a role in politics. that has not been taken away from them. but no egyptian, be that an islamist, and the brotherhood is not the only one, the brotherhood or someone like me who is more towards a secularist, and if i decide i'm not going to work beyond the constitution or want to be b beyond it, i don't have a role in politics. we have a challenge to come together. the next president will have that challenge. but i don't really believe that the government is reacting to a political issue. it's reacting to violence. >> charlie: you really believe that? >> i really do. >> charlie: now, this extreme measure, taking that step of sentencing all these people to death is the b
you have it in spain, in ireland, in germany, in italy. that's the first point. the response here is to violence, primarily. secondly, what's declared terrorism or a terrorist organization is the organization itself. our present president has said that, according to our constitution, any egyptian who is not found guilty of a crime and is ready to work according to constitution peacefully still has a role in politics. that has not been taken away from them. but no egyptian, be that an islamist,...
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plus president obama and germany fell chancellor angulo merkel met at the white house today. will tighter -- german chancellor angela helmet at the white house today. will tighter sanctions actually change the situation in ukraine? we will be talking about that, next. ♪ its focus is shifting to cyber security, examining financial firms' preparedness for cyber threats. they are looking at how secure they really are. joining me, the former white house cyber security commissioner tom kellerman. what is the sec's biggest fear? what is going on? >> the lack of reporting in the marketplace. more firms are being breached. significant resources in material risk. >> financial firms? >> broker's houses, major publicly traded companies. >> how is it we do not hear about that? >> off and they are not aware they have been breached until they are notified that their accounts are being sold and bartered in the shadow economy. >> it is terrifying because you think of your financial data being out there. it really means we are all being vulnerable in a certain way. who is responsible, would
plus president obama and germany fell chancellor angulo merkel met at the white house today. will tighter -- german chancellor angela helmet at the white house today. will tighter sanctions actually change the situation in ukraine? we will be talking about that, next. ♪ its focus is shifting to cyber security, examining financial firms' preparedness for cyber threats. they are looking at how secure they really are. joining me, the former white house cyber security commissioner tom kellerman....
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and germany on nsa surveillance. president obama also faced a question from the international press about tuesday's botched oklahoma execution. on ukraine both leaders seemed amenable to the possibility of further sanctions that take direct aim at key sectors of the russian economy. sanction that is could potentially damage a sluggish european economy as well. president obama said it all depends on how deeply russia interferes with ukraine in the lead-up to its elections later this month. >> if, in fact, we see the disruptions and the destabilization continuing so severely that it impedes elections on may 25th, we will not have a choice but to move forward with additional more severe sanctions. >> for her part chancellor merkel told the associated press -- the assembled press that, "the post-war order has been put into question by the actions of russia and vladimir putinin." it comes as ukraine has attempted to take back one key city, leaving at least two dead in the fighting and separatists have downed at least two
and germany on nsa surveillance. president obama also faced a question from the international press about tuesday's botched oklahoma execution. on ukraine both leaders seemed amenable to the possibility of further sanctions that take direct aim at key sectors of the russian economy. sanction that is could potentially damage a sluggish european economy as well. president obama said it all depends on how deeply russia interferes with ukraine in the lead-up to its elections later this month....
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there are killers and would be killers in australia and finland, germany, brazil. who have used columbine as an inspiration. and it's all that publicity that columbine got. the columbine killers they decided they wanted to feel important. and they sought revenge. revenge against their classmates who bullied them. maybe against all of society. and it seems to me that is the motive in this case, as well. >> i know -- i know it's revenge, i know a lot of it is notoriety. how could one not know about columbine even if you were a kid when that happened? i've heard a lot of folks say we, the media, we the public shouldn't be uttering the suspects' names because that then, of course, raises them to a level and elevates them to a level we shouldn't be doing. but do you think that would take away, you know, and some of these other potential school shooters' minds. the troubled minds, the intent to kill? >> first of all, the reporters have a duty to tell the public. and also, the idea of making them into big shot celebrities, putting them on the cover of celebrity magazines.
there are killers and would be killers in australia and finland, germany, brazil. who have used columbine as an inspiration. and it's all that publicity that columbine got. the columbine killers they decided they wanted to feel important. and they sought revenge. revenge against their classmates who bullied them. maybe against all of society. and it seems to me that is the motive in this case, as well. >> i know -- i know it's revenge, i know a lot of it is notoriety. how could one not...
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said that robert lovell who was testifying didn't know what he was talking about because he was in germany at the time. >> alan? >> you don't think that members of congress will find out more information now that you can have general petraeus and hillary clinton sitting next to each other -- >> how many more investigations -- do you know in the bush administration, i know you hate when i bring up bush -- after 9/11, there were 13 different attacks at embassies and consulates resulting in hundreds of deaths. i didn't hear a word about this. why is there a double standard about this president? >> you shouldn't be afraid of the truth. and if this investigation, this select committee can uncover the truth, then you should welcome it and let the chips fall where they may. listen, krauthammer is right. think about the people that went to jail over covering up a third-rate burglary at the watergate building in washington, d.c. four people died. it's a very big deal. >> benghazi is a tragedy, it's not a scandal. >> oh, it's a scandal. >> when we learn more information with the select committee. >>
said that robert lovell who was testifying didn't know what he was talking about because he was in germany at the time. >> alan? >> you don't think that members of congress will find out more information now that you can have general petraeus and hillary clinton sitting next to each other -- >> how many more investigations -- do you know in the bush administration, i know you hate when i bring up bush -- after 9/11, there were 13 different attacks at embassies and consulates...
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so heads to washington to discuss the sanctions on russia ukraine and germany. this is true of harnessing. wait a second in kimonos has lost its not considered an opponent and notes upon the cause of the swelling the ukrainian fine. the one scene. bonnie's life the county. and i was some breaking news on the sea at least two ukrainian troops and one self defense funny to have been killed to kiev relaunch the miniature castle on the east tennessee to have fun be honest which is held my anti government protest as the cca in the donetsk region has a population of just about a hundred thousand. and it's now been painted with people unable to monterey scary. the us. you can see the times of desperate non locals have been trying to prevent it brings me to call a black criminal unseen by simply standing in the way the truth didn't seem all that can stand up for a show which kicks off at the leak came from by the ground and ground and that was the helicopters were sent to read these kinds of that plan b i t was gunned down by the self defense forces the ukrainian army d
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germany's chancellor, angela merkel meeting with president obama at the kwhous. the president saying most of the discussion concerned the crisis in ukraine. meanwhile ukraine's president saying many pro-russian separatists were killed in the east today. reshls shooting down two helicopters in slaviansk, two crew members died. the events prompting russia to call an emergency meeting at the un security council. in afghanistan at least 350 people have been killed in a landslide. and that number is expected to grow dramatically. the slide reportedly burying an entire village in the country's northeast. >>> there is concern in colorado over edible marijuana products. two recent deaths involving people who and it special candies or baked goods. paul beban has more from denver. >> reporter: in colorado you can buy legal weed the old fashioned way, by the bud, or you can buy it in bottles, in candy, or cookies. these are edibles. 10 milligrams of thc, the chemical that gets people high is the state limit per serving but one drink or one piece of candy can contain as much
germany's chancellor, angela merkel meeting with president obama at the kwhous. the president saying most of the discussion concerned the crisis in ukraine. meanwhile ukraine's president saying many pro-russian separatists were killed in the east today. reshls shooting down two helicopters in slaviansk, two crew members died. the events prompting russia to call an emergency meeting at the un security council. in afghanistan at least 350 people have been killed in a landslide. and that number is...
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the chancellor of germany. topping the agenda, threat of new sanctions against russia if that country doesn't stop meddling in eastern ukraine. they are live with the latest. >> the president is meeting with chancellor merkel for the first time since she learned about the listen nothing on telephone calls. the emphasis was on ukraine with the separatist battling the police. mr. obama said the u.s. and europe are focusing tougher sanctions. he seemed to rule out russia's energy sector. >> energy flows from russia to europe. those continue in the midst of the cold war. and the height of the cold war. and so the idea that you are going to turn up the tap on all russian oil or natural gas exports is unrealistic. >> arizona senator john mccain thinks that the president should provide weapons to the ukranians and nothing that the u.s. could provide would have them stand up to the russian. and they have strong tees to russian industry. germany leaders yesterday. they are governed by the industrial complex and might as
the chancellor of germany. topping the agenda, threat of new sanctions against russia if that country doesn't stop meddling in eastern ukraine. they are live with the latest. >> the president is meeting with chancellor merkel for the first time since she learned about the listen nothing on telephone calls. the emphasis was on ukraine with the separatist battling the police. mr. obama said the u.s. and europe are focusing tougher sanctions. he seemed to rule out russia's energy sector....
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and germany united and sent another stern warning to moscow. >> we are united in our determination to impose costs on russia for its actions as ukrainian forces move to restore order in eastern ukraine, it is obvious to the world that these russian-backed groups are not peaceful protesters but heavily armed militants receiving significant support from russia. >> times are also tense with ukrainian army launching the first major assault on separatist strong holds in the east of that country. a spokesman for putin called the move a criminal act. nbc news chief white house correspondent chuck todd, also host of "the daily rundown" joins us. how critical was it for the president to get merkel on board with sanctions? >> reporter: it's interesting, that is a glass is half full way of looking at it. here's what clearly they agree to. they have the next deadline that they've set to decide whether to do another round of sanctions and that is the may 25th election. you heard the president essentially say if russia destabilizing the situation, makes -- tries to mess with this election process,
and germany united and sent another stern warning to moscow. >> we are united in our determination to impose costs on russia for its actions as ukrainian forces move to restore order in eastern ukraine, it is obvious to the world that these russian-backed groups are not peaceful protesters but heavily armed militants receiving significant support from russia. >> times are also tense with ukrainian army launching the first major assault on separatist strong holds in the east of that...
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. 36% of germany's natural gascon assumption comes from russia. 39% of their oil comes from russia. talk about going over a well, christopher chivas is a senior political analyst with the rand corporation. good to see you. will russia use this attack on pro-russian forces, separatists, whoever they are, inside ukraine as the provocation they were really looking for to attack and take territory from ukraine. >> i wouldn't be surprised at all, tyler, if that's what's going on. this is a strategy we have seen from russia before. the strategy is basically to aid and abet violence and turmoil and use it as an excuse for some kind of intervention. they probably will claim they're doing it on humanitarian grounds, but the reality will be that the large number of forces now poised on the border of eastern ukraine will move from russia into eastern ukraine. >> what is the end game here? what do you think will happen? will ukraine be split into two countries or what? >> it's very different to predict right now. i think there are a number of different possibilities. i should say that i think t
. 36% of germany's natural gascon assumption comes from russia. 39% of their oil comes from russia. talk about going over a well, christopher chivas is a senior political analyst with the rand corporation. good to see you. will russia use this attack on pro-russian forces, separatists, whoever they are, inside ukraine as the provocation they were really looking for to attack and take territory from ukraine. >> i wouldn't be surprised at all, tyler, if that's what's going on. this is a...
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. >>> other news, president obama and germany's leader facing some serious questions today on foreign policy flash points including the crisis in ukraine. the president just wrapped up a joint news conference with the german chancellor angela merkel. the u.s. is warning of tougher sanctions against russia over ukraine. the president saying the preference is a diplomatic solution but if that doesn't happen the next step is more sanctions. he says he understands the concerns of some european countries but he's confident the u.s. and the european union will stand together. >> the goal is not to punish russia. the goal is to give them an incentive to choose the better course. and that is to resolve these issues diplomatically. and i think we are united on that front. within europe, within the eu, i'm sure there has to be extensive consultations. you've got 28 countries and some are more vulnerable than others to potential russian retaliation. we have to take those into account. not every country is going to be in exactly the same place. what has been remarkable is the degree to which all
. >>> other news, president obama and germany's leader facing some serious questions today on foreign policy flash points including the crisis in ukraine. the president just wrapped up a joint news conference with the german chancellor angela merkel. the u.s. is warning of tougher sanctions against russia over ukraine. the president saying the preference is a diplomatic solution but if that doesn't happen the next step is more sanctions. he says he understands the concerns of some...
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but that is not the case in germany. >> that's right. there is similaring outrage over what emerged from the nsa concerning the eavesdropping on the chancellor's phone as she had private conversations. it really shook the relationship between president obama and chancellor merkel, and also on the u.s.'s ability to be a friendly nation. so the germans have not moved past this. they are still looking for answers. the german government asked that the nsa turn over the german nsa files and the obama administration so far as refused to do that. >> we should point out that there are also dueling sensitivities on both sides of the pond and there is a reason that angela merkel is so upset. >> absolutely. you can certainly imagine the level of outrage, i think all of the nations know that all nations spy, but when you are talking about personal phone calls that's a different matter. so you may expect a politeness, even a friendship, but you can expect the conversations were much more heated behind closed doors. >> libby casey stand by, we are sti
but that is not the case in germany. >> that's right. there is similaring outrage over what emerged from the nsa concerning the eavesdropping on the chancellor's phone as she had private conversations. it really shook the relationship between president obama and chancellor merkel, and also on the u.s.'s ability to be a friendly nation. so the germans have not moved past this. they are still looking for answers. the german government asked that the nsa turn over the german nsa files and...
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and germany are united on a number of things. they are united in the outrage about what russia is doing but i still very much get the sense they are not united on the costs that each country is willing to pay in terms of imposing sanctions in order to press the russians. >> although angela merkel said she would be willing to discuss further escalated sanctions. >> they have been willing to discuss that for 2.5 miles. they appear to have made the holding of the presidential elections on may 25 the key red line, as it were, for whether there are escalated sections against russia which gives them four weeks to work something out. it will be interesting to see if the election occurs what is deemed illegitimate apartheid ukraine and whether that will cross the line of disruption of the elections for the west. >> we also heard chancellor merkel mentioned specifically the over surveillance that the u.s. -- the disagreement on how much surveillance is necessary to fight terrorism. it referenced the fact that the nsa was eavesdropping on
and germany are united on a number of things. they are united in the outrage about what russia is doing but i still very much get the sense they are not united on the costs that each country is willing to pay in terms of imposing sanctions in order to press the russians. >> although angela merkel said she would be willing to discuss further escalated sanctions. >> they have been willing to discuss that for 2.5 miles. they appear to have made the holding of the presidential elections...
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germany is one of our closest allies and closest friends. and that's true across the spectrum of issues, security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic, and angela merkel is one of my closest friends on the world stage and somebody who -- who is partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to say the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains in the relationship. but more broadly, i've also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal structures and policy structures to catch up with rapidly advancing technologies. and as a consequence through a series of steps, what we try to do is reform what we do. and have taken these issues very seriously. domestically we try to provide additional assurances to the american people that their privacy is protected. but what i've also done is taken the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence communities to take the privacy interests of nonu.s. persons into account in everything that they do. something that's not been done before and most other countr
germany is one of our closest allies and closest friends. and that's true across the spectrum of issues, security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic, and angela merkel is one of my closest friends on the world stage and somebody who -- who is partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to say the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains in the relationship. but more broadly, i've also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal structures...
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s germany is one of our closest allies, closest friends. that's true across the spectrum of issues -- security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic, and angela merkel is one of my closest friends off world stage and somebody who -- whose partnership i deeply value. so it has pained me to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains in the relationship. s but more broadly, i've also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal structures and our policy structures to catch up with rapidly advancing technologies. and as a consequence, through a series of, you know, steps, we've tried to reform what we do. and have taken these issues very seriously. domestically we've tried to provide additional assurances to the american people that their privacy is protected. but what i have also done is taken the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence communities to take the privacy interests of non-u.s. persons into account in everything they do. something that's not been done before, and most other
s germany is one of our closest allies, closest friends. that's true across the spectrum of issues -- security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic, and angela merkel is one of my closest friends off world stage and somebody who -- whose partnership i deeply value. so it has pained me to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains in the relationship. s but more broadly, i've also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal structures and our...
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germany's one of our closest allies and our closest friends. and that's true across the spectrum of issues. security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic. and angela merkel is one of my closest friends on the world stage. and somebody who -- whose partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains in the relationship. but more broadly, i've also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal structures and our policy structures to catch up with rapidly advancing technologies. and as a consequence, through a series of, you know, steps, what we try to do is reform what we do. and have taken these issues very seriously. domestically, we tried to provide additional assurances to the american people their privacy is protected. what i've also done is taken the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence communities to take the privacy interests of non-u.s. persons into account in everything that they do. something that's not been done before and most o
germany's one of our closest allies and our closest friends. and that's true across the spectrum of issues. security, intelligence, economic, diplomatic. and angela merkel is one of my closest friends on the world stage. and somebody who -- whose partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to see the degree to which the snowden disclosures have created strains in the relationship. but more broadly, i've also been convinced for a very long time that it is important for our legal...
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germany is one of our closest allies and our closest friends. that is true across the spectrum of issues. economic, diplomatic and angela merkel is one of my close friends on the world stage and somebody whose partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to see the degree to which the disclosures have created strengthen the relationshistrai. for broadly i have been convinced for a very long time that it is important for the legal structures and policy structures to catch up with rapidly advancing technologies. as a consequence to a series of steps what we try to do is reform what we do. have taken these issues very seriously. domestically we tr tried to proe additional assurances the american people their privacy is protected, but what i have also done is taken the unprecedented steps of ordering our intelligence committees to take the privacy interest of not good interest for everything they do. something that has not been done before and most other countries do not do. the privacy interest of non-us citizens are deeply relevant and take
germany is one of our closest allies and our closest friends. that is true across the spectrum of issues. economic, diplomatic and angela merkel is one of my close friends on the world stage and somebody whose partnership i deeply value. and so it has pained me to see the degree to which the disclosures have created strengthen the relationshistrai. for broadly i have been convinced for a very long time that it is important for the legal structures and policy structures to catch up with rapidly...
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changing sometimes under dramatic circumstances in this two part series we go to the borders of france and germany. and if croatia and bosnia herzegovina. is this awesome at making an in depth report on the professional work and passion of the cost be fixed i guess he thinks services clinton's watch and see how his work is changing people's lives for the better. last is a series of short documentary films on a fifth and sixth new york city is there to keep chasing victory. this documentary series showcases the everyday lives of young japanese and other nations trying to make their dreams a reality in the atrocities please check our website for the broadcast schedule in your time zone and state tends to nhk world tv using a mystery to shooting. laundry to consumers in the stone buddha. to lead them to be one of them. see the sights we the people. the magic of the world's greatest cities the two clinical experience possible and don't come with us for a while do so. i did this week come steal from the ummah. increased openness and grilling steaks price is too late. and another fifty and one. using it
changing sometimes under dramatic circumstances in this two part series we go to the borders of france and germany. and if croatia and bosnia herzegovina. is this awesome at making an in depth report on the professional work and passion of the cost be fixed i guess he thinks services clinton's watch and see how his work is changing people's lives for the better. last is a series of short documentary films on a fifth and sixth new york city is there to keep chasing victory. this documentary...
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not find any record of any promises to gorbachev that nato would not expand, for instance, to eastern germany. we could not find it, maybe somebody find it, but we have no record. we had no records of that. but gorbachev apparently seems to believe still today that he had such a promise. and president yeltsin believed that he had a promise, and they detail how he was led to believe that, that partnership for peace was with instead of nato in -- [inaudible] not the first step, not a preparative step which i knew because delbert and then christopher and my western european colleagues spent time to explain that to me. while they failed to tell that to president putin -- to president yeltsin at that time. so that brings me back to my point. it's not enough for the to be on the right side of history. it's important. but they should speak in clear terms. that's what russians deserve. that's what putin deserves. that's what russian parliament deserves. that's what ukrainian people in particular today because they are suffering in the war actually. so they deserve very, very clear message. and the me
not find any record of any promises to gorbachev that nato would not expand, for instance, to eastern germany. we could not find it, maybe somebody find it, but we have no record. we had no records of that. but gorbachev apparently seems to believe still today that he had such a promise. and president yeltsin believed that he had a promise, and they detail how he was led to believe that, that partnership for peace was with instead of nato in -- [inaudible] not the first step, not a preparative...